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Post by TerribleCj on Oct 5, 2011 4:17:33 GMT -5
I know I'd miss my Sovtek! There's a ton of 800's out there and they rule but they always sound like 800's...It's a lot harder to find that Sovtek sound. If you leave the JCM one day, try to find the Mig 100-h, you wont be dissappointed!!
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Post by joshjoshjosh on Oct 5, 2011 14:36:48 GMT -5
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Post by Parker on Oct 10, 2011 8:28:39 GMT -5
Sovteks have character, dammit. I didn't want to give it up, it was just a volume issue.
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Post by forget it on Oct 10, 2011 17:41:51 GMT -5
Sovteks have character, dammit. I didn't want to give it up, it was just a volume issue. filter caps. people think they last forever but they dont. they last about 5 times as long as tubes, less than that if you play like i do with everything on 10. and transformers too. with all the mods and mercury transformers out there, why would you hesitate to upgrade? and wow no one changes fuses anymore unless they blow. im guilty of that one too. fresh parts make for a fresh amp. fresh amps retain volume as well as tone vintage amps retain vintage tone... but like a vintage car, must be maintained as such
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Post by Parker on Oct 11, 2011 20:26:12 GMT -5
True, I was just running a 60 watt head with a Sunn Concert Lead and it was crazy unbalanced...with my Sovtek on 10 and Sunn on 2.
It probably did need some maintenance, but I still don't think it'd be able to compete, entirely. A friend had a vtm freshly serviced with lots of parts replace because it shit out and he couldn't run it with his Beta Lead for the same reason.
I always ran (2) 60 watts dimed out and was plenty loud but it's crossing over into silly now with the Jcm and Sunn.
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Post by forget it on Oct 11, 2011 22:24:45 GMT -5
sunns are louder than anything. and i do mean anything. class A solid state power is no fucking joke.
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Post by Parker on Oct 11, 2011 23:30:59 GMT -5
Yeah. I've heard something about the way they rate the wattage is different, explaining how "100 watts" solid state is way louder than 100 watt tube, which, in theory, should be way louder.
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Post by TerribleCj on Oct 12, 2011 3:08:59 GMT -5
So what were/are you using to split your guitar signal into both amps? I built a switcher pedal and a rackmounted box with several outs but they are both passive and I know a balanced transformer would clear my signals up a ton. Plus, I dont know how finnicky tube amps can be with passive units like that. I know of amps that were destroyed beyond repair by using a boss pedal with 2 outputs..
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Post by rob on Oct 12, 2011 5:50:51 GMT -5
tube should be louder, but especially with louder 70's stuff it's all a crapshoot. Every beta seems to sound pretty close to the same, but sunn concerts seem to be all over the place, and a lot of the older sunn tube stuff is way all over the place. Accoustics were notoriously underrated as far as power.
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Post by Parker on Oct 12, 2011 7:44:14 GMT -5
The only "issue" about the Sunn's power (volume) is that it's abrupt, then sort of plateaus. Going from 0 to 1 is a massive jump. As is 1 to 2. But after about 4 mine doesn't get any louder, just breaks up a lottttt (basically how tube amps are past 7, in my opinion. strange because it's ss). Luckily, I'll probably never have to turn up past 3.
This is the first ss amp I've owned so it might be more of a common characteristic than I think.
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Post by rob on Oct 12, 2011 17:56:50 GMT -5
almost all of the old solid state amps do that. adjust the other knobs, to adjust power along with the master
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Post by Parker on Oct 12, 2011 20:09:48 GMT -5
"other knobs" as in the 2 sets of eq knobs like on a beta lead? Because I know how you can bridge the inputs on those and eq accordingly. I only have one set of knobs, though (concert lead).
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Post by ian geiger on Oct 15, 2011 9:38:37 GMT -5
jcm 800 is the holy grail, essentially, for heavy music. or block letter 5150s <3_<3
my opinion doesnt count, i know.
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Post by forget it on Oct 16, 2011 11:39:13 GMT -5
jcm 800 is the holy grail, essentially, for heavy music. or block letter 5150s <3_<3 my opinion doesnt count, i know. every band ive ever seen that had two guitarists with both these amps running, jcm800/5150, sounded like god. ive recently gotten very close to the same combined sound with my orange and vc60. not as intense, but just as full.
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Post by Parker on Oct 19, 2011 7:33:47 GMT -5
I finally rearranged my pedal board and am kicking myself for not doing it sooner.
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Post by forget it on Oct 19, 2011 17:47:26 GMT -5
i actually just ditched my last pedal and am now back to playing straight into the amp. it would be nice to find some kind of pot based boost that was effective for just pushing more volume from the guitar into the amp.
btw, anyone played rocksmith yet? you use your actual guitar to play the game, it teaches you how to play the songs for real, or at least learn how to play the guitar period. fucking great.
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Post by Parker on Oct 31, 2011 9:00:58 GMT -5
So what were/are you using to split your guitar signal into both amps? I built a switcher pedal and a rackmounted box with several outs but they are both passive and I know a balanced transformer would clear my signals up a ton. Plus, I dont know how finnicky tube amps can be with passive units like that. I know of amps that were destroyed beyond repair by using a boss pedal with 2 outputs.. Just saw this...I used an ABY but now I run both the heads through my tuner/bypass. What about amps being destroyed by boss pedals with 2 outputs? I don't' want to fall into this category.
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Post by forget it on Oct 31, 2011 13:31:39 GMT -5
orange tiny terrors for $400 on hellomusic.com today only. not tryin to be a salesman, but thats 200 bucks cheaper than usual and these amps fucking rullllle.
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Post by TerribleCj on Oct 31, 2011 14:14:43 GMT -5
Without a transformer isolated output, you run into serious noise problems from ground loops. All the amps that I've seen get blown from a boss tu-2 were high-gain tube amps. They also make a lot more noise when you use two with a passive a/b/y pedal. After I got the radial a/b/y with the buffered outs, I havent had any issues and any noise is relatively gone.
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Post by Parker on Oct 31, 2011 16:39:46 GMT -5
Without a transformer isolated output, you run into serious noise problems from ground loops. All the amps that I've seen get blown from a boss tu-2 were high-gain tube amps. They also make a lot more noise when you use two with a passive a/b/y pedal. After I got the radial a/b/y with the buffered outs, I havent had any issues and any noise is relatively gone. Glad you posted this! I've been having grounding issues with feedback while I'm playing with the jcm 800 ("background" feedback WHILE I'm playing, not when I'm not playing). And I have an Isp Decimator so I was trying to figure out what the hell was going on. Looks like I'll need that radial pedal. That Morley was noisy.
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Post by forget it on Oct 31, 2011 18:06:30 GMT -5
those morleys are only good for splitting an effects loop into two chains
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Post by forget it on Nov 6, 2011 10:07:34 GMT -5
if anyone has any old/used 6L6 tubes or 6550 tubes, i could really use them.
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Post by Prison of Mirrors on Nov 6, 2011 18:34:37 GMT -5
if anyone has any old/used 6L6 tubes or 6550 tubes, i could really use them. I've got a box of I would say a half dozen used tubes I will sell you for $10. Bought them on craigslist from a dude a year or so ago and never ended up using them for anything.
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Post by jimbo on Nov 6, 2011 19:40:04 GMT -5
Shit I need a quartet of 6l6gc's too
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Post by forget it on Nov 7, 2011 6:30:50 GMT -5
if anyone has any old/used 6L6 tubes or 6550 tubes, i could really use them. I've got a box of I would say a half dozen used tubes I will sell you for $10. Bought them on craigslist from a dude a year or so ago and never ended up using them for anything. next weekend. sold.
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Post by Parker on Nov 23, 2011 9:46:38 GMT -5
Finally got a Radial Big Shot
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Post by TerribleCj on Nov 23, 2011 11:18:35 GMT -5
Any Better? Worthy investment?
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Post by Parker on Nov 23, 2011 11:51:23 GMT -5
I'll update you when I actually play it. I'm sure it will be, though. It won't take much to beat the clicky/noisy Morley.
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Post by Parker on Jan 6, 2012 8:53:02 GMT -5
Late ass update- The Radial aby is awesome. It eliminated the feedback issue I had previously, there is no clicking when switching the pedal and it has fancy switches with words like "polarity".
Also, because my long-used Boss TU-2 has been in another state for the past 6 months I finally got a new tuner. I bought a Planet Waves, D'addario Tru-Strobe tuner for 40 bones and was put off at first, but after looking it up, apparently it's one of the better tuners out there. The LCD display is a bit awkward but I guess it just takes some getting used to. Anyone used one of these before?
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Post by max on Jan 10, 2012 17:14:11 GMT -5
my buddy just made me a pretty cool pedalboard that im excited about.
also, peavey vtm 60....thoughts on this? i have a chance to pick up the head for $200. is that a good deal?
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